Curse

T1Cybernetic · Jan 18, 2012, 08:07 AM // 08:07

This is not pay to play, but pay for hat

99p per hat (Problem solved)

enter_the_zone · Jan 18, 2012, 11:20 AM // 11:20

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Originally Posted by drok3n

can we close this topic, hells no to festive hats. this is not a pay to play game move on.

BMP, Storage Panes, Char slots, Mercenary Slots, Makeover packs etc.etc.etc. ad nauseam all say hello.... so yeah, add them and let's move on.

Fu8ar · Jan 18, 2012, 05:29 PM // 17:29

You snooze you lose. They are called holiday hats for a reason. If you weren't here for the holiday event, tough titty said the kitty. Get over it and move on, I did.

jazilla · Jan 18, 2012, 09:31 PM // 21:31

/signed. if anet did it, it would show good will that they are only going to put cosmetic stuff on their cash shop for GW2. This is exactly the type of thing that should be in a cash shop. i am only typing /unsigned to cash shop items that buy advantage. Also, you would never in a million years see me buying cosmetic items with real money lol. what a waste of cash.

enter_the_zone · Jan 18, 2012, 09:49 PM // 21:49

I think it's highly dependant on the cosmetic item. Plenty of people paid for the extreme makeover pack and I can't fault that. Similarly, if they put FoW armor in the cash shop, I can't fault buying that, since it's a pain in the arse to farm and I could probably earn about 450 times what it'd cost in real money in the time it would take to farm the stuff. But hats... yeah, I wouldn't bother either.

Araiia · Jan 18, 2012, 09:58 PM // 21:58

/signed

Cosmetic items, ok by my book.

People who are in favor: people who don't have the hats
People who aren't in favor: people who have the hats.

Figures.

enter_the_zone · Jan 18, 2012, 10:01 PM // 22:01

Actually, I've got pretty much all the hats I want, at least on my main. If I bought them, it'd be for my alt account, and only because it'd be cute to duo UW wearing Santa hats.

Gill Halendt · Jan 18, 2012, 10:03 PM // 22:03

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Originally Posted by Araiia

/signed

Cosmetic items, ok by my book.

People who are in favor: people who don't have the hats
People who aren't in favor: people who have the hats.

Figures.

I favor this (always did) and I have all of them.

I like to think there's something beyond me and my own personal needs, so if a suggestion sounds reasonable to me, I tend to support it, even when it doesn't impact my game experience directly.

Strik3r · Jan 18, 2012, 10:57 PM // 22:57

/signed ONLY if account age applies. Which means if your account dates to 05 then you could get the santa hats for example. Or else no, why should you get rewarded for something you didn't attend? I mean, if I started playing the game in 2008 then I wouldn't expect to be able to obtain anything I would have missed in the past, it just doesn't make any sense at all. And for the record, YES I do have a santa hat but right now it's the only perk available if you have been playing the game from the start.

You weren't there so be it.

IE: My employer organized a free souper in a restaurant and they made a drawing for wine bottles. Should I go to my employer saying I wanted wine bottles too? I wasn't there so I'm not entitled to complain. If you want perks next time then just play Guild Wars 2 from the start.

cormac ap dunn · Jan 19, 2012, 01:10 PM // 13:10

I believe this dead horse has been beaten many many times... We get that people believe they deserve something they didn't get because they A. were not there B. lost said hats C. Like to troll forums for whatever reason. As of the last time I checked, these were awarded to people who were actually involved with said events, I doubt that will ever change. This wasn't intended to be a cash shop game folks. If you feel you need to purchase status, might I direct you to many other games. Epeen seems to be the biggest worry for many of you. Its cosmetic, and there are plenty of cosmetic things you CAN purchase already. Go buy them and move along, oh and be sure to attend the DRAGON FESTIVAL or you will miss another hat and this thread will be repeated .

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jan 19, 2012, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by Strik3r

/signed ONLY if account age applies. Which means if your account dates to 05 then you could get the santa hats for example. Or else no, why should you get rewarded for something you didn't attend? I mean, if I started playing the game in 2008 then I wouldn't expect to be able to obtain anything I would have missed in the past, it just doesn't make any sense at all. And for the record, YES I do have a santa hat but right now it's the only perk available if you have been playing the game from the start.

You weren't there so be it.

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why? cuz it attracts people to get something nice, which has impact on any sale, both in GW and GW2

last bold part is kinda heartless acting to people, which shoo's away people or let them pass GW and GW2

i think they should give them away with quests or required event items, like candy cane shards and maybe 1k

not looking at ages of accounts, that'd be plain stupid, as everyone deserves to have their fun in the game, and festival hats dont even give anything but cosmetic fun

costumes are different, so they are fine with reallife money

i said before i'm only interested in the first dragon mask, as i had factions on the wrong account, but i changed my mind, and so have first yule cap and cat ears only, on my chars
so i dont think people should be able to get them just cuz i want them, as i wouldnt even get them

i'd like to use those candy cane shards and such for other stuff, instead of masks i didnt get before

i wasnt fast enough to get to LA for the first halloween, but then second pumpkin mask looks the same mostly, so i keep it with that one

tbh, if i could lock my masks and unlock it for someone else, i'd give some away, lol

anyway, now that GW isnt as crowded anymore, i rather see people stay than leave, which i've seen with 90% of my friendlist
so let the small part still in GW enjoy the game some more before GW2 comes

as i said: its cosmetic fun, so let people enjoy some more hats than what they can get now, or later.... or release old masks/hats in future events

even though i dont care about them anymore, i'd like to let others also enjoy the same hats/masks

if they do this, there wont be any bad effects on the game, just good ones
i've enjoyed the events themselves, thats my better point than those who werent there and would get em now, IF they would

ps. i dont get why people would find it bad, as experience events is better than just getting the hats/masks

cormac ap dunn · Jan 19, 2012, 01:39 PM // 13:39

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

bolded parts:

why? cuz it attracts people to get something nice, which has impact on any sale, both in GW and GW2

last bold part is kinda heartless acting to people, which shoo's away people or let them pass GW and GW2

i think they should give them away with quests or required event items, like candy cane shards and maybe 1k

not looking at ages of accounts, that'd be plain stupid, as everyone deserves to have their fun in the game, and festival hats dont even give anything but cosmetic fun

costumes are different, so they are fine with reallife money

i said before i'm only interested in the first dragon mask, as i had factions on the wrong account, but i changed my mind, and so have first yule cap and cat ears only, on my chars
so i dont think people should be able to get them just cuz i want them, as i wouldnt even get them

i'd like to use those candy cane shards and such for other stuff, instead of masks i didnt get before

i wasnt fast enough to get to LA for the first halloween, but then second pumpkin mask looks the same mostly, so i keep it with that one

tbh, if i could lock my masks and unlock it for someone else, i'd give some away, lol

anyway, now that GW isnt as crowded anymore, i rather see people stay than leave, which i've seen with 90% of my friendlist
so let the small part still in GW enjoy the game some more before GW2 comes

as i said: its cosmetic fun, so let people enjoy some more hats than what they can get now, or later.... or release old masks/hats in future events

even though i dont care about them anymore, i'd like to let others also enjoy the same hats/masks

if they do this, there wont be any bad effects on the game, just good ones
i've enjoyed the events themselves, thats my better point than those who werent there and would get em now, IF they would

ps. i dont get why people would find it bad, as experience events is better than just getting the hats/masks

Well, to answer the last part, people find the general attitude of "gimme because I want" offensive. On a thread in the Farming section just the other day, a fella made a point to say the game was broken, because he had played for a whole 3 months and wasn't 50/50 and GWAMM, he felt as though something that should take years to earn through gameplay should be given to him ... Know what the general response was? Tough, suck it up, we all had to work for it, and you don't just get handed everything, I ts what comes from years of playing. I think the hats strike that exact same chord. I agree that the events are better then the rewards, but then to reinforce that you don't even need to go to the events to get those mementos just rubs the people who did show up, did get involved and did get those things in just the wrong way. Every year there are new things, so every event is an opportunity to get some new shiny things. That means every new player has just the same chance to get them. Not there means not getting what was given. Also you bolded the wrong part

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Originally Posted by Strik3r

And for the record, YES I do have a santa hat but right now it's the only perk available if you have been playing the game from the start.

drok3n · Jan 19, 2012, 05:00 PM // 17:00

if we follow this mentallity of everyone getting what they want, then we might as well add the best chest drops to IGS also. didnt get a mini dhuum from uw. just buy one from IGS. is this what you want this game to be?

cormac ap dunn · Jan 19, 2012, 05:19 PM // 17:19

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Originally Posted by drok3n

if we follow this mentallity of everyone getting what they want, then we might as well add the best chest drops to IGS also. didnt get a mini dhuum from uw. just buy one from IGS. is this what you want this game to be?

Every time they get an inch they ask for a mile good sir. today hats, tomorrow purchased level 20 PvE GWAMMs , just shake and pour.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jan 19, 2012, 06:22 PM // 18:22

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Originally Posted by cormac ap dunn

Well, to answer the last part, people find the general attitude of "gimme because I want" offensive. On a thread in the Farming section just the other day, a fella made a point to say the game was broken, because he had played for a whole 3 months and wasn't 50/50 and GWAMM, he felt as though something that should take years to earn through gameplay should be given to him ... Know what the general response was? Tough, suck it up, we all had to work for it, and you don't just get handed everything, I ts what comes from years of playing. I think the hats strike that exact same chord. I agree that the events are better then the rewards, but then to reinforce that you don't even need to go to the events to get those mementos just rubs the people who did show up, did get involved and did get those things in just the wrong way. Every year there are new things, so every event is an opportunity to get some new shiny things. That means every new player has just the same chance to get them. Not there means not getting what was given. Also you bolded the wrong part

GWAMM does more than festival hats, and if they're equal, i wanna see those hats in GW2 if unlocked in GW

as i said: it cant do any bad to anyone, but only does good to those who want em
also, you cant even see if someone was there or not, until the person said so, or if its known by hearing from others

and festival hats arent even half as popular as GWAMM
i've seen more costumes and titles than hats, outside of the event, and at most events, all alot people do is afk waiting for hats, even 2 days too early
and the quests to get stuff

and if not busy with those event things, people are getting other stuff, like GWAMM or any rare skin weapon, or money for stuff they want, like titles
(which is most likely the only thing keeping GW alive, as far as possible)

i dont find it "deserving" if all you gotta do is being afk, so i dont mind sharing with anyone
heck, for all i care, they give all hats + new ones every year, which i find a pretty good idea, tbh

if they had done that from the start, not much would make such fuss about it as some do now

but i guess lot of people are : you werent there, and i were, so you dont deserve, and i do
while i think we're all equal

how can someone really be bothered about new players getting older hats? as long as you have your own, you should be happy, right?

Strik3r · Jan 20, 2012, 12:10 AM // 00:10

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

GWAMM does more than festival hats, and if they're equal, i wanna see those hats in GW2 if unlocked in GW

GWAMM does more but can be achieved by anyone regardless of when you started playing. The hats can only be obtained if you were playing the game during that time.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

also, you cant even see if someone was there or not, until the person said so, or if its known by hearing from others

You can tell from people wearing their hats.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

all alot people do is afk waiting for hats, even 2 days too early
and the quests to get stuff

It doesn't matter what you had to do to get it, the point being you shouldn't get rewarded for an event you didn't participate in.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

i dont find it "deserving" if all you gotta do is being afk, so i dont mind sharing with anyone

That the hat is easy or hard to get doesn't validate your right to obtain it. I took a break from the game when they released the magazine miniatures but you don't see me writing to Anet complaining about it.

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

but i guess lot of people are : you werent there, and i were, so you dont deserve, and i do
while i think we're all equal

Nobody is equal. Should it not be a prestige thing, others can be superior than you for example in PvP in which only the highest skilled players will get rewarded. In this case, it's about people who's been playing for a long time.

enter_the_zone · Jan 20, 2012, 01:17 AM // 01:17

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Originally Posted by Ayuhmii Shanbwa

how can someone really be bothered about new players getting older hats? as long as you have your own, you should be happy, right?

Exactly, that more or less sums it up for me. But then is it really any surprise that a large part of the GW community is petty, spiteful, selfish, small-minded and childish.... no, it really isn't.

Considering everything "elite" in this game is about e-peen and not functionality, well, that attracts a certain kind of person...

Gill Halendt · Jan 20, 2012, 06:37 AM // 06:37

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Originally Posted by Strik3r

I took a break from the game when they released the magazine miniatures but you don't see me writing to Anet complaining about it.

You can acquire magazine minipets through other means, like, you can buy them from other players. Off course they're expensive now, but still, you can and the only reason magazine minipets should not be re-released it's because rarity determining a significant monetary value is the only purpose they serve.

Hats on the other hand have no value nor fuction at all.

That's the core problem of yet another design issue with this game. For hats to really mean something, they should have been awarded for some merit (even minor, like, actually partecipating, which is not the case) while not representing useless clutter in a tight-inventoried game.

Storage expansions, hat makers and costume slots should really have been there since the early days, and hats should never have been handed out like nothing for just stepping into an outpost at the right time and stand there. Then I'd /unsign for a store re-release.

Right now hats tell very little to anything about the player, as much as you insist calling them "a perk".

There are multiple reasons listed in this thread why some people who were there don't have them anymore. Better still, there are those people who weren't there to take active part to the festivities (but their character was, idle in some outpost at the time, big deal!) who have them. How afk'ing events is something "special" is really beyond me.

That's a twisted idea of "perk" you have...

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Jan 20, 2012, 11:23 AM // 11:23

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Originally Posted by Strik3r

You can tell from people wearing their hats.

i mean "you can't see it if we could get older hats, as you dont know about random people and how long they play GW unless they tell you"

That the hat is easy or hard to get doesn't validate your right to obtain it. I took a break from the game when they released the magazine miniatures but you don't see me writing to Anet complaining about it.

mini's have 2 functions , which are 1. showing in towns, 2. HoM (meaning GW2 items), and hats dont do anything but show

Nobody is equal. Should it not be a prestige thing, others can be superior than you for example in PvP in which only the highest skilled players will get rewarded. In this case, it's about people who's been playing for a long time.

with that attitude, GW would lose many more people and GW and GW2 wouldnt get as many members, which means big loss to Anet

what i meant of course was that everyone should be equal with regular stuff, and hats arent obtained by being the best at something, just about standing afk, which doesnt mean much

you see, i play the events actually, so i "deserve" the hats coming in that event
while others just stand afk and maybe do other games, and they deserve hats coming in that event too

some even only come back for hats, and then leave the game as it is again, you think they deserve hats more than those who actually are playing?
that'd be a weird statement, imo

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But then is it really any surprise that a large part of the GW community is petty, spiteful, selfish, small-minded and childish.... no, it really isn't.

nope, but thats 1 reason GW should allow anyone to get something nice, and ignore those selfish people by NOT listening to them

and obtaining a hat by getting it after an event is already going on, as an npc stays in towns waiting for you to exchange loot for such hat
so its not only about being there anymore, you can skip it and get the items you need (even can buy them) and get the hats from the npc

this makes all the "be there or dont get it" worthless, how long did they stay? a week or so? its not as special then anymore, right?
some may keep the drops from last year and get newer hats with them, maybe they should do the other way around too, getting older hats with those drops
(candy cane shards and ToT's, for example)

they did this before, with 7 hero team, NOT nerfing certain pve skills (as some people are complaining about skills being too strong... weird they dont just ignore those then), let us trade zaishen coins, bring back certain stuff every year (like mini polarbear) and give us the same treatment in general... well, i'm not gonna research all of those, sry, search for updates and such

also, those who didnt know about GW, or didnt have the money to buy it, can then enjoy the hats they wanted to get, but couldnt

cormac ap dunn · Jan 20, 2012, 01:06 PM // 13:06

Well, the same guy whining about the hats, and barely comprehending what others are saying is getting a bit old. Same 3 pro hat people ignoring everyone else. Meh. For as long as people have begged for this , there has been 0 interest on the staffs part to implement this, and for solid reasons. YOU CAN'T HAVE EVERYTHING JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT IT. BE THERE NEXT TIME. If you think the time it takes to go (psst afk or not your character was THERE) is too much of a hassle then you don't deserve them, and if you missed some? Guess next time you will have a shot. People miss things all the time. This is a fact of life. Get over it. If you can't then you have a sad existence indeed. Event = Hat. Not involved with the event = no hat. I don't think this is too hard to comprehend. And yet here we are. God, I shudder to think what will happen to these people in GW2 when events will happen whether they are there are not. Persistent worlds are going to destroy the whiny folks. "BUT I MISSED SOMETHING! I DEMAND YOU RESET EVERYTHING FOR ME!" Buckle down kids, that's gonna be a long game for you.